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analyst, retired u.s. army and former aide to general david pe tray use. ben, first to you. before i even get into the news about this saddam hussein's former aid, the death, let me ask you about that suicide bomb attack. what is isis saying and are all u.s. staff safe and accounted for, do you know? >> yeah, isis has claimed responsibility brooke for this explosion. actually two explosions that took place at 5:50 local time in erbil in the kurdish portart of northern iraq. first there was an ied that went off just up the street from the u.s. consulate. moments later, a car sped in the direction of the consulate. security personnel in the area fired back. it exploded. it killed three people. it wounded five others all of them civilians. we understand that none of the guards at the u.s. consulate were injured, and all u.s.
personnel at the consulate are safe and accounted for. but it does represent something of a dramatic security breakdown in a part of iraq that until now has been relatively secure. >> so that is erbil. just south of there, another operation in tikrit. let's talk about that. iraqi security forces killing this top leader. what was he doing there? what has he been doing? and do you know of any ties to isis? >> well this is ibrahim al douri, old right-hand man of saddam hussein. according to iraqi officials, there was an operation that appears to include both iraqi military and these paramilitary shiite forces. they somehow hit a convoy in which al douri was traveling. it's not confirmed at this point
if this is indeed him. in the past, we've gotten reports that he's been killed and he's reappeared. so his dna is going to be sent to baghdad to be checked. now, this was a man who has evaded first the u.s. and then iraqi forces from 2003 until today, perhaps. and he had very close ties with isis although he was the head of his own military organization that functioned in that area. he's a man who does have ties with isis has cooperated and worked with them but we understand from on nervousers and analysts that ties between his group and isis have been becoming a little less smooth in recent months. >> had been fraying. that's what i heard. as we await the dna test results, colonel, many of the
isf defectors who went on to join isis, you know in the very beginning were former saddam hussein cronies. how would that factor into al douri's ability to make friends with them? >> well he was probably leading the charge and uniting the two groups. we had kicked the army of saddam hussein out of iraq at least those that wouldn't reconcile with the new regime. during the surge of 2007 2008 we defeated most of al qaeda in iraq and kicked it across the border as well. in syria, they joined together. they realized that the enemy of my enemy is my temporary friend at least. what al douri brought to isis was a brutal sense of strategy. you could sense that last year as they went first into anbar province then took mosul, then headed down to baghdad. there was a real sense of strategy and a plan behind what they were doing. i think that's what al douri
brought to the table. and that's what the iraqis have now taken off the table with this raid. >> that's interesting when you talk about the shared strategy because as ben was just reporting, from observers, the frayed ties between him and isis. and i'm hearing he didn't actually believe -- the end game for isis is this caliphate. apparently al douri didn't believe that would happen or didn't believe in that. if he's working alongside these militant what do you think his -- what was he fighting for colonel? >> oh, he wanted iraq. you can't have a caliphate and have an independent iraqi state occupying the same ground. that's why the alliance was destined to break down. but it was strong at the beginning when they were fighting. as soon as they had something to control, you can see it fraying at the edges and more and more as they're suffering set backs on the battlefield.
i think this was inevitable that they would fight together and fall apart over who was going to control what. >> colonel, ben, thank you both very much. you saw him apologize on scene. now robert bates has apologized on national television for killing a man after he says he confused his gun for his taser. today the oklahoma volunteer deputy who's been charged with manslaughter broke his silence, speaking to nbc. at one point, the 73-year-old insurance executive demonstrated how exactly he was carrying his weapons during this undercover sting operation in which he says he accidently killed 44-year-old father eric harris. harris ran from these undercover officers who they say he sold them illegal weapons and drugs. >> first and foremost let me apologize to the family of eric harris. you know this is the second worst thing that's ever happened to me -- or first.
ever happened to me in my life. i had cancer a number of years ago. i didn't think i was going to get there. luckily i was able to go to a hospital where i had hours of surgery. i rate this as number one on my list of things in my life that i regret. my taser is right here on the front, tucked in a protective vest. my gun itself is on my side normally to the rear. this has happened a number of times around the country. i have read about it in the past. i thought to myself after reading several cases, i don't understand how this can happen. you must believe me it can happen to anyone. >> let's go to ed lavandara, covering this from tulsa. he talked about it a lot this morning, but he also responded these allegations from "tulsa
world" newspaper that they'd falsified his training. how did he respond to that? >> well this is the part of the story that has been really under the most intense scrutiny over the last couple of days. and it is this question of whether or not robert bates had the proper training to be out there or if that was documented. he was asked about that training whether he had gone through it. and mr. bates said he was not only trained and properly trained but he has the proof of that as well. >> that is not correct. i have a written piece of paper that a mr. warren crindon, now in jail for murder 40 miles east of here in mays county, signed off to psisay i had done a good job. >> without getting off on a tangent, you did the training and can prove you are certified? >> that is absolutely the truth. i have it in writing.
>> all right, brooke. here's where things kind of break down. we have requested more than a week ago the full personnel file for mr. bates. we were told by an attorney for the sheriffs department that could not be released. the sheriffs department did release a long list of the different course and training courses mr. bates had gone through over the last seven years. that does not include the field training records and who signed off on all of that. on top of that we had statements from the sheriff, his only public comments he made to a radio station a couple days ago. he acknowledged some of the gun certification records might have already been lost. it was taken by a former sheriffs deputy employee the instructor for that gun certification. that deputy has moved on to another job. they say they're trying to get in touch with her. the reporters who broke this story with "the tulsa world" newspaper say this could be cleared up if these records
would just be produced. >> this can be cleared up very simply by the sheriffs office producing the records or producing the two supervisors who are still employed who our sources say were pressured to sign off on the training and refused and with r transferred. >> so brooke the scrutiny around these records and what it all means and what exactly is all there is still very much up in the air as far as we're concerned. >> got to get those records. that'll answer a lot of questions. ed thank you so much. next the jurors in the aaron hernandez trial tell cnn's anderson cooper the nfl star's behavior in the courtroom impacted the decision to convict, but the revelations do not stop there. plus the parents of martin richard, the youngest victim of the boston bombings asked the jury in this incredibly powerful piece in "the boston globe" this morning not to let their son's killer be put to death. we have more of that. and dr. oz under fire by some of his fellow doctors. there is a call to have him
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two highly emotional murder trials two dedicated jurees. in both cases, you have juries who sat through much of harrowing testimony, and in the case of tsarnaev they head back to court next tuesday to decide whether he lives or dies. meantime all 12 jurors in the aaron hernandez trial just sat down with anderson cooper. they talked about a lot of things. they talked about the silent relationship that's formed inside this courtroom between these jurors and a defendant.
>> i notice quite a few of you have called him aaron. i think people who haven't been on a jury don't understand the intimacy that exists in a courtroom where somebody is sitting, you know, a couple feet away from you and -- >> for three months every day. >> that's right. >> did you look at him a lot? did he look at you? >> i did. >> yes. >> oh yeah. one time we made eye contact, and he actually nodded to me at one time. you know it's hard. you come in that room every day, and you see this person and it's hard to come to that decision at the end because three months with them it's almost like they're part of you. then all the sudden now you've got to make that decision to either put them away or let them two. it's very hard. >> at the end of the day, though you make sure that you understand that you didn't choose to make those decisions. you were just asked to decide if they were relevant. >> joining me more to talk about this the judge during the anna
nicole smith custody hearing. judge, to me hearing that juror say it's almost like they're part of you, aaron hernandez, sitting so closely locking eyes. some of them were frightened by him. some felt sorry for him. what is that like for juries especially this one? for three months it's like this courtroom becomes a home away from home. >> it's overwhelming. it consumes your every day activity. they're sitting with one another. they go to the bathroom they share in the jury room. they're eating lunch together. they're eating dinner together. and they're having an experience that will affect many people and many families and they have to make the ultimate decision whether to place this young boy, hernandez, in jail for the rest of his life. it feels more comfortable when it's a team playing and it's not
an individual so they do it as a team. and they did it here. they were thoughtful. they were thorough. they did a fine job. >> let's go from one case in massachusetts to another, this boston bombing trial, the penalty phase for dzhokhar tsarnaev starts tuesday. i know that this morning there was an incredibly powerful opinion piece in "the boston globe" in which you hear from the parents of martin richard, who was killed the youngest victim. it was the notion to put this man, dzhokhar tsarnaev, to death or not. this is from the parents. we understand all too well the heinousness and brutality of the crimes committed. we were there. we lived it. the defendant murdered our 8-year-old son, maimed our 7-year-old daughter and stole part of our soul. we know that the government has its reasons for seeking the death penalty, but the continued pursuit of that punishment could bring years of appeals and prolonged reliving the most
painful day of our lives. we heard from martin richard's father testifying previously. we could hear from the mother in this next phase. i'm just wondering, just knowing juries, as you do, and how emotional this case has been for the city of boston how will that sit with the jurors? >> i think the jurors recognize the fact that you could be anti-capital punishment but we're in a new playing field here. this is an act of terror. this is something that is new for the american mind. you have people that will kill and destroy with zero motive. hernandez, the motive was weak the reason he did a killing. but here this defendant placed bombs behind the family where there were children standing. and he put that bomb pack on his back knowing that he could lose his life that that bomb can go off. this guy has no value of life.
>> it was a horrible heinous crime. but to hear the words from these parents who have lived this, to say, please, you know no to the death penalty because with the appeals process, they will be reinjured emotionally for years. >> well we're a compassionate society. but we can't look like we're soft on terrorism in america. we can't look like we're soft. we have to use the full thrust of allure in this case. this guy has to get the ultimate hammer. he has to be placed to death. there's no mitigation here. there's no reason why taxpayers should spend $150,000 a year keeping this guy in a federal prison. even though he'll go to one of the worst prisons in america, the most maximum federal prison he has no right to still be among us. >> as we mentioned, the next phase of this whole trial starts tuesday.
we'll be there covering it. judge, thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up next inside the controversial land of dr. oz. his own medical peers now calling on him to be fired. and this afternoon, dr. oz is responding. we'll talk with a health reporter who's been tracking his career for years. and does the punishment fit the crime? michael smer michael smerconish joins me to discuss this espn reporter and her unbelievable berating of a tow truck employee that makes you gasp. >> i'm in the news, sweetheart. i'll [ bleep ] sue this place. >> okay. that's fine. and i'll play your video, so be careful. you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose
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facility. none of them is from columbia but they wrote a letter to the university laying out their complaints. the list includes what his critics see as dr. oz's disdain for science to his opposition to genetically modified foods. quote, worst of all, he's manifested an egregious lack of integrity by promoting quack treatments and cures in the interest of personal financial gain. dr. oz's green coffee bean pitch, perhaps you've seen it definitely caught the attention of the trade commission. >> this little bean has scientists saying they found a magic weight loss cure for every body type. >> dr. oz's likeness appears on health products on tv, in magazines, online. a short time ago, he released a statement to cnn in response to his critics' letter. i bring the public information that will help them on their path to be their best selves. we provide multiple points of view including main which is
offered without conflict of interest. that doesn't sit well with certain agendas, which distort the facts. for example, i do not claim that gmo foods are dangerous, but believe they should be labeled like they are in most countries around the world. julia, let me bring you in. health reporter at vox.com. you've written what many consider the definitive piece on dr. oz. welcome to you, first of all. and you've been following him since 2011. so in your opinion who is he? is he this ivy league educated surgeon on the faculty at columbia or is he this walk who pushes snake oil on tv? >> yeah thanks for having me brooke. i think that's what makes him so fascinating. he's both. he's this highly credentials cardiothoracic surgeon. for the most recent piece i wrote, i dug into his past and found he has multiple patents to his name for devices and methods
relating to very complicated heart surgeries. i spoke to a burch of his colleagues who said this guy is an incredible surgeon who's so talented and so efficient in the operating room and so he has this really robust background as a doctor and a scientist and researcher. and at the same time you know he goes on tv talking about how you can bust your belly fat and boost your metabolism and do it with magic and miracle supplements. >> as you point out, a number of his critics are standing by him. the senate admonished him. here's an exchange when he was called in front of the senate. >> in january, you called it quote, lightning in a bottle. i don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true. so why, when you have this amazing megaphone and this amazing ability to communicate, why would you cheapen your show
by saying things like that? >> i actually do personally believe in the items i talk about in the show. i passionately study them. >> senator mccaskill saying cheapen the show. has his show evolved into more promotion than health advice over the years? >> yeah so one thing that's interesting about the most recent letter from the doctors to columbia is that it is a long time coming. we've seen these criticisms as far back as 2011 2010 when i started to look into him. there were already scientists and doctors and bloggers speaking out against him. i had physicians i knew come to me and say, you know, i have patients who come into my clinic on like shopping carts full of supplements based on something that dr. oz said on his tv show. i had my mom calling me what felt like every week saying, you know, did you get your thyroid level checked? did you check your vitamin d? >> because she was listening to
dr. oz. >> exactly. so he has this tremendous reach. part of the tragedy of him is that he could have really helped people navigate what is this very complex and confusing area in medicine. yet, he's gone down this path of promoting things that completely deviate, that aren't backed by scientific evidence at all. >> well columbia is backing him. this is what they say. columbia is committed to the principle of academic freedom and upholding faculty members' freedom of expression for statements they make in public discussion discussion. what did does your gut tell you? do you think he stays on? >> i think so. he's a tenured professor. they're essentially saying this is academic freedom. he has the right to promote and say whatever he wants on the air. i think john oliver summed it up well. he said, you know he's not going on air just saying, you know i'm some guy named mehmet.
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an espn sideline reporter is now off the air after she went on this verbal rampage. it was caught by surveillance video. even though she was warned she was on video, and you see her at one point looking up at the camera britt mchenry ripped into this towing clerk at a company as she was paying to get her car out. mchenry unleashes on the woman's job, her education, her weight her teeth. the video first showed up on live leak. >> do you feel good about your job? so i could be a college dropout and do the same thing? is that why i have a brain and you don't? maybe if i was missing some teeth they would hire me huh? >> [ inaudible ]. >> oh like yours? because i'm on television and you're in a [ bleep ] trailer. lose some weight baby girl. >> with me now, cnn political
commentator michael smerconish. i saw this immediately after my show yesterday. somebody pulled me in their office and said you got to see this. it's like you just don't believe -- it's like you're watching it in slow-mo. you can't believe she's saying this. >> the irony is that someone so beautiful was so ugly right? >> so ugly. >> indefensible. >> she's been yanked off air for a week. >> slap on the wrist. >> you think -- you've been on the radio. you're a listener saying -- >> get rid of her. espn needs to fire her. that was the consensus. it's hard for me because i like to present telephone calls that run the gamut of opinion. i had to go searching for those who think she should not be fired. >> you tweeted about it, "the washington post" column. michael bair wrote this piece essentially saying, you know we're all complicit. he talks about the video isn't
an isolated incident. it's a pathology of viewing others showing how people are less than that we all need to take a look at ourselves as we all sit and judge her. >> i don't buy that. no way. towing operators rank with telemarketers. we've all been there. we've all that hhad those high-stress moments. if she had dropped a couple "f" bomb, i'd be very forgiving. that's not what went on here. the commentary about the worth -- >> that's who i want to hear from this tow truck -- >> i've gone looking for information about this. turns out someone who works on my radio program lives in a condominium complex where this is the tow operator of choice. you always see the sign if your car gets towed, these are the -- and they have no friends out there. people talk about how they only accept cash they won't make change. so they really have you over a barrel. i get all that. still, this was so
reprehensible. and i would argue it's in her best interest that she be fired. because in the world in which we live, this tape will follow her forever. so it can either follow her and she still has her job, to be follows her, but she was disciplined to the point she was actually fired for it. then i think we'll be more forgiving if we understand there was some level of justice meted. >> people aren't forgiving at all. her instagram is wiped. >> yeah they're sick. >> and they're vicious upon her viciousness, which that's an entire conversation that we had in our morning editorial meeting. this is what she tweeted. in an intense and stressful moment i allowed my emotions to get the best of me and said some regrettable things. i should always choose to be respectful and take the high road. i'm so sorry for my actions and will learn from this mistake. have you ever had your car towed? >> absolutely. >> i've had my car towed. it's stressful, but you would
never -- >> there's something missing. she didn't apologize to the woman. let me begin by apologizeing to the woman who i was unbelievably rude and offensive. it's undefensible what i said to you. >> here's my hypothetical for you. what do you think would have happened pre-internet pre all these tools and trolls writing all this vicious stuff about her, warranted or not? it's ugly stuff. what do you think would have happened to her pre-internet versus now? >> pre-internet we wouldn't know about it. >> you doerntn't think it would be on tv? >> it's the cameras. where would we be with the south carolina police shooting but for that individual who stopped and captured it on all video? so much bad behavior went unpunished in the prehf-internet world. and to those trolls, i don't know why media outlets allow
anonymous blogging. they all deserve each other. it's probably three people with feet in their pajamas sitting in front of a keyboard. >> it's disgusting. i have a feeling she's going to be marching herself to apologize to that woman, whether it was her idea or not. michael smerconish thank you very very much. i know you're going to be all over this on the show this weekend. don't miss smerconish tomorrow morning 9:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. new hampshire, the place to be this weekend, at least if you're a republican thinking about running for president next year. florida senator marco rubio is there. so is texas governor rick perry as well as jeb bush. here he is. others will be there as well. they're all coming for the first in the nation republican leadership summit. it kicked off today. it is the first can't-miss event for the 2016 republican field in a state that holds the first in the nation presidential primary. and while some of those republican hopefuls swing through new hampshire, so will
hillary clinton, who is set to meet with activists, students and business leaders there next week. part of her bid to become the nation's first woman president. that's something academy award winning actress geena davis knowing a little bit about. she played the nation's first female president in the abc drama "commander in chief." and it wasn't the first time davis showed that women can dominate the screen. remember this? >> i think he's going to apologize apologize. >> no i don't think so. [ gunfire ] >> can you believe it's been 24 years since "thelma and louise"? since then geena davis has been working to make inroads on how women are portrayed in tv. i talked to geena davis about hillary clinton and why she says it's time for fiction to become reality. here's a piece of our conversation.
>> geena davis is joining me now. it is so wonderful to see you. welcome. >> thank you very much. >> so of course just coming out of that we're talking about hillary clinton's announcement that yes, indeed it's official she'll be running for president. you played a commander in chief on television. in real life let me ask you this, you surprise it hasn't happened yet? >> well, i'm not surprised, let's say, but i am frustrated by how long it's taken. i remember when i was doing this show every interview i did, the interviewer would eventually say, do you think we'll ever see a female president in our lifetime? i'd be like what century do you live in? yes. we not only need to have the first one, we need to have it absolutely as likely that it'll be a woman as a man right away immediately. we can't wait around anymore for this to happen. you know if we add women to
congress at the rate we have been it'll take 500 years to achieve parody. no, it has to happen right away. >> when i look at you, i think of "a league of their own," i could recite the whole song for you. i think of "thelma and louise." you play this badass woman. i don't know if i can say that but i did. what other women do you think right now are contributing to the shift in portraying women in stronger roles on screen? >> the ratio has been pretty much exactly the same of male to female characters in films since 1946. >> yikes. >> so we can't say it's different now or certain people are changing it. we always like to assume that when a movie comes out like "hunger games" or something, then now everything has changed.
but that happened when "mama mia" and "sex in the city" came out. so we never have really got the momentum going yet. >> i actually spent my valentine's weekend, i don't know now two years ago, with my 7-year-old best friend. she showed me this movie "frozen." i think i was really impressed by -- i'm like go disney. you think in the movie she's going to be saved by the guy. i forget the character. in the end, it's her sister right. >> right. absolutely. i have to say, of anybody, disney has -- is really stepping up to the plate. i mean they have "brave" and "frozen" and maleficent." "tangled" was another instance where they were re-creating what we expect a female character to be. even re-creating their own characters. >> when you think of stereotypes 20 30 years ago of women on
screen, i think of housewives or secretaries. i'm wondering here in 2015 what stereotypes still exist. >> the hypersexualization of female characters is something that has progressively gotten worse and worse as time goes on. in g-rated animated movies the female characters wear the same amount of sexually revealing clothing as the female characters in r-rated movies. so there's a tremendous amount of hypersexualization and also valuing and judging the female characters by how attractive or how appealing they are. >> geena davis, thank you very much. by the way, geena is behind the bentonville film festival that will showcase women and myinority film makers. still ahead, they're the educators turned cheaters convicted of inflating students' test scores.
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add plea deal even after a jury convicted them in influting student test scores to retain bonuses on keep their jobs. >> i would not be able to take a deal that would require me to perjure yourself. when you are completely innocent and asked to stand up and say you're guilty i believe that's still perjury and i wasn't willing to compromise my integrity and say i did something i did not do. in addition to that i really believe in the judicial process. and i have the constitutional right to file an appeal and in order for me to take that deal i would have had to negotiate away my rights to appeal, and i just wasn't willing to do that. >> oh, my gosh. it has been an overwhelming burden. when it first happened i just was immobilized with the, the notion that not just a few people thought we hurt children
but it felt like the whole world was against us. and it was huge. so it is take an strong emotional toll, financial intellectual. i don't feel as smart as i used to, but spiritually i'm stronger. >> you got fine educators here. the educators who are back in the schools who cheated and came and said that we made them cheat because they were scared of us they're back their teaching your kids. be afraid, be very afraid. >> all eight former educators have been sentenced to serve anywhere from one to seven years in prison. they all plan to appeal. now to what police are describing a hane oes crime and sea.
15 muslim men suspected of murder after they allegedly threw 12 fellow mile grants over the side of this won't because they were christians. this boat headed from war-torn to italy. we have more on all of this. barbie, what happened? >> reporter: brooke the situation in the waters between libya and italy is quickly deteriorating into chaos. we've heard report after report of violent situations out at sea. one including a situation where 12 christians were thrown overboard by people on their boat because they were praying to god. 15 muslim men were arrested in palermo when they made landfall there and we've heard reports from the shores of libya where the boats are taking off, a gas can exploded several, iran cluding a 6-month-old child burned badly, as they were forced to get on the boat and make the voyage anyway. spent two weeks at sea before
being rescued. and against the european union border patrol and italian coast guard. the situation we expect to get worse. 11,000 people have arrived in the last week and the italian coast guard and italian navy say there are many more boats on the horizon. brooke? >> barbie nado thank you. coming up a deadly car boem bloft outside the u.s. consulate in iraq. all of this coming as a top lieutenant of saddam hussein's is killed in that country, but how does isis fit into all of this?
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